Disorder among the Turcomans and Kurds however remained. Their unrest on the eve of the disaster of Kosedag shows that following the battle it was not a passing disturbance, but a wish to profit from the regime’s disarray to resume the free life natural to them. Gould the disorder in central Asia Minor already mentioned, and that now noted at the southwestern end of the Taurus, have more in common than just their nature? Had they some actors in common through the interplay of migrations, such as those from precisely the first to the second of these regions as the bard of the Turcoman dynasty of the Karamanids in later times ascribes to its ancestors? In such a hotchpotch of impossible details, one seeks in vain to extract a real historical memory. Like the eastern Taurus, the western Taurus is in any case one of the theatres in which the Turcomans were to achieve most importance after Kosedag, as will appear.