The most scintillating of verbal exchanges rarely translate directly into interesting and valuable written reports, and the author afraid that this is true of the debate between William Lane Craig and Alexander Rosenberg. On the other hand, there was the Greek tradition. Starting with Saint Paul, there were a lot of very clever and well-educated early Christians, and they tried to make sense of their religion by drawing on the best philosophical thinking of the day, namely the thinking of Plato and Aristotle, first the former and then secondly Aristotle. God and of course Plato makes this very clear is a bit like a mathematical entity. And that is not a God worthy of worship, because such a God could not have been a creator nor he could be doing anything for people now or in the future.